Altec 604 -g 416 b 811b in the same cabinet?

**juniper** · September 8th, 2011, 12:14 PM

Hello, and first, thanks to all who have shared their wealth of knowledge! This is my first post and I need some guidance and thanks in advance.
I have read many posts about altec speakers and haven't come across any where someone has built speakers of this type. My simple idea was to place altec 604 8g's and model 19 type speakers in the same cabinet. My reasoning is that I like both of these speakers and I prefer one over the other depending on the source and type of music. Also, it would save space and be a more modern design which fits my space. My question is this a good idea? and if so, what considerations our adaptations would you reccomend? I plan on using 3/4 marine or void free birch plywood. Thanks any advice would be truly appreciated!::

**Old Guy** · September 8th, 2011, 03:46 PM

I wouldn't do it. Just plain a bad idea. But it's a free country.

No way to get optimum height except side by side at which point don't mess with the original designs.

**cradeldorf** · September 8th, 2011, 04:14 PM

That would be a powerful speaker combo.....I think I saw something like that, except it didn't have any horn, just the regular driver (416 -515) on the bottom and a 604 above it. Like a stanley screamer kind of.

**juniper** · September 8th, 2011, 06:14 PM

Thanks for the input! I was just wondering why this would be a bad Idea? 2 different speaker systems in one cabinet with shared volume to save space. Thanks

**David Yost** · September 8th, 2011, 06:21 PM

The UREI 813 and 815 monitors did this many years ago, buy mainly to improve power handling and ultimate loudness, not to extend the bass response downward.

If I was going to build something like what you are proposing, I would lean towards an Onken W box with a 605 paired with a 416/803.

**Old Guy** · September 8th, 2011, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by cradeldorf

That would be a powerful speaker combo.....I think I saw something like that, except it didn't have any horn, just the regular driver (416 -515) on the bottom and a 604 above it. Like a stanley screamer kind of.

No, he wants to put all the drivers in the same box so he can switch back and forth, a completely different concept.How do you get optimum tweeter placement for both systems? you can't.

The screamer was a 3 way using the 604 high power versions horns as tweets. He is talking about two independent systems in a common cabinet.

You are thinking of the Urei 813 monitor with an Eminence sub, again COMPLETELY different.

**Altec Best** · September 8th, 2011, 06:20 PM

You can always stack them ! I've done that,especially when A/B ing two sets of speaks.Same foot print.

**Old Guy** · September 8th, 2011, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Altec Best

You can always stack them ! I've done that,especially when A/B ing two sets of speaks.Same foot print.

Better idea than all in one, would do the 19 type box on floor and 604 on top. One tweeter is still gonna be too low or high but probably best option.

I suppose you COULD build one box like that, but what's the point? No floor space savings and WAY harder to move...

**cradeldorf** · September 8th, 2011, 07:15 PM

Thanks OG "You are thinking of the Urei 813 monitor with an Eminence sub, again COMPLETELY different." That's the exact picture I was picturing.
And I agree 2 systems one cabinet...yeah not a good Idea. For one thing when you run one set the other would be like a radiator.